Season of Mission

[00:00:04] Speaker A: This is Faith Break, a podcast about recognizing God, moments in our everyday lives with hosts Karen Luke and Anne Gallagher. Today is the feast of the baptism of the Lord. This week, Karen and Anne reflect on how Jesus baptism gave him a sense of conviction about his mission and on how the sacramental life of the church supports us in following God's call for our lives. [00:00:38] Speaker B: Hello, everyone. Welcome back to Faith Finding God in your Everyday Moments. I'm Karen Luke. [00:00:45] Speaker C: I'm Anne Gallagher. [00:00:46] Speaker B: And today we're talking about the season of mission. [00:00:50] Speaker C: Yes. So this is the feast of the baptism of the Lord Jesus baptism. And last year around this time, we did an episode about the missing years of Jesus. But today we're just going to talk about the baptism, which is actually a really cool story. And hopefully we'll use it to talk a little bit about, like, Jesus's mission, how we're part of that mission. Also think maybe how the sacraments support us. [00:01:16] Speaker B: It's so funny that you said that because that's one of my talking points. Okay, so the first God moment. God moment. [00:01:25] Speaker C: You go first, I go first. Mine's short. [00:01:27] Speaker B: Okay, perfect. [00:01:30] Speaker C: I'm not gonna say which of my kids did this, but one of my kids told me yesterday, you're a good mom. [00:01:39] Speaker B: Oh, parent win. [00:01:42] Speaker C: They might have been buttering me up for something else. Christmas presents. I'm gonna take the win. Yes. Because it's not every day that one of your teenage children gives you that kind of information. So, yeah, that was my God moment. [00:01:56] Speaker B: There's nothing else you have to say? [00:01:57] Speaker C: 85% sure they meant it at least a little bit. [00:02:00] Speaker B: Oh, you know they meant it. [00:02:02] Speaker C: How about you? [00:02:03] Speaker B: Well, my God moment were moments with our reconciliation service. [00:02:10] Speaker C: Oh, our littles were so cute. [00:02:13] Speaker B: Or the first reconciliation kids along with our adults. I mean, it was. It was huge. We needed to print more programs. [00:02:23] Speaker C: I know I was the one who. [00:02:24] Speaker B: Went back to the office and printed them, but it was just so sweet. And I was standing next to near Father Mike, and the kids were lined up. And so I got mini conversations with all the kids as they were getting ready to go. As they were getting ready to go. And this one little boy, he was just like, sheet white. [00:02:47] Speaker C: Oh, he was nervous. [00:02:48] Speaker B: Nervous. And I was like, what's up, buddy? He goes, I'm nervous. And I said, well, what are you nervous about? And he goes, just talking to the. Talking to a priest. And I says, he's just a dude. He's just a guy. It's like your grandpa, right? And he goes, I call my Grandpa, Gramps. I go, well, it's just like, Gramps. And so. And then all of a sudden, it was his turn, and he walks out. And afterwards, he's got this big smile on his face. And his dad, he's been forgiven. His dad comes up to me and he's like, thank you for taking that time. I'm like, this is my job, and I love it. And it was just. Every single child came away with a smile. We had some little kids skipping and dancing, and it was just. It's such a witness. [00:03:37] Speaker C: And it was so cool for the cause. We didn't have a separate reconciliation service for the kids and the adults. We did it all together. And so the adults who were there just loved seeing the little kids make their first reconciliation. And to be part of that, it was a good morning. [00:03:53] Speaker B: It was a great morning. And thank you to Father Mike and Father Mike Fowler, Father Peter Clifford and Father Jim Lawlor, who came to help. And I. I thank you so much for your patience and kindness. [00:04:09] Speaker C: And Father Rob heard the bulk of the children's. [00:04:12] Speaker B: Father Rob was the rock star. He had the longest line now, because they're comfortable. [00:04:18] Speaker C: They know him the best. [00:04:19] Speaker B: And it's funny because one of the kids says, are you gonna wait for Father Rob? And I don't go to my boss. [00:04:26] Speaker C: Occupational hazard. When you're ministering in the church is like, what do you do about confession? [00:04:31] Speaker B: Yeah, I feel that that was my God moment for the week, is just celebrating those moments with the kids and the families. And it was so cute. We had grandparents and aunts and uncles come. [00:04:44] Speaker C: It was something really. Some little guys were in ties. [00:04:47] Speaker B: They were very cute. It was such a blessing. And I was telling everybody. I was like, oh, just wait for first communion now. [00:04:55] Speaker C: Like, 40 kids. [00:04:57] Speaker B: 47. [00:04:58] Speaker C: 47. [00:04:58] Speaker B: 47. [00:05:00] Speaker C: Plus the seven or eight we're doing on Easter Vigil, plus for our eight. [00:05:04] Speaker B: That are a lot of good joys, God moments. [00:05:08] Speaker C: I love that you talked about the sacrament of reconciliation, because it's the Baptism of Jesus Day. [00:05:15] Speaker B: And. [00:05:18] Speaker C: We just came off of ncyc, which. The catechetical angle on that this year was all about the sacraments. And I've just been thinking about these sacramental moments that our church gives us. And, you know, we can look in the life of Jesus and see the seeds, the beginning of all of the sacraments that we have. And there's just so much wisdom and richness in our sacramental tradition and in the fact that our church knows how to, like, take the ordinary stuff of life. You Know, like oil and bread and water and wine, and use them, like, the physicality of them, to say something about how God is working internally in the major moments of our lives and that we do it together as a community. [00:06:09] Speaker B: Right. [00:06:10] Speaker C: So these rites that we have are just like containers for the graces that God is always wanting to give us. [00:06:17] Speaker B: Yeah. When I do first Communion prep, it's so cute. Cause I'll say, oh, this is my favorite part. This is my favorite thing about being Catholic. And it's something different every time. And I had one little kid like, you have a lot of favorite things. I was like, it's true. But that is one of my favorite things, is the fact that our symbols are outward signs of inward feelings and that there are things that are tangible to us every single day. And it's not a high priest or high priests in this back room by themselves conjuring this thing that the everyday people don't get to see, and the richness of that. And I think when the parents hear that, there's a click, like, oh, that's true. You know, baptism. Huge. A lot of the families are like, oh, I never knew that. Or didn't connect that. And it's such a rich symbolism of our faith that we have those so. [00:07:23] Speaker C: Well. So let's talk about Jesus's baptism. Just that story which is our Gospel reading today. And we're in. We're reading from Matthew this liturgical year, so that's the one we get this year. But I actually kind of took a look at the baptism stories in the other gospels, too, because I think it's important to put that story in the context of his life and his ministry. Right. So all. Well, actually, I'm not sure about John. I didn't look at John. But the other three gospels all start with John the Baptist, you know, after the infancy narratives. And in Luke and Matthew, then we have the story of John the Baptist, who we know is Jesus's cousin, and that Jesus went to him to be baptized, and that John was like, wait. [00:08:17] Speaker B: A minute, I need to be baptized from you. Like, what is going on? [00:08:22] Speaker C: Right. But so this idea of baptism was already out there, and it was about repentance and it was about, you know, cleansing and all of that. But for Jesus, what it did in Jesus's life was it marked, like, the beginning of his private life, the years we don't know about, and then prepared him, maybe even propelled him into his active ministry, which really only lasted a few years, when you think about it. So this experience of being baptized by John, but also of having God speak to him. Right. And we have. In the. Where is it? I'm going to actually read it right From Matthew. After Jesus was baptized, he came up from the water, and behold, the heavens were opened for him. And he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove and coming upon him. And a voice came from heaven saying, this is my beloved Son, with whom I am well pleased. So Jesus's baptism, he had the confirmation of his identity, of who he was. He was God's son. God was pleased with him. And God had. You know, we don't like to say plants, but we have dreams for him. [00:09:43] Speaker B: The other thing that I like about Jesus baptism is that Jesus wasn't asking us to do something that he hadn't done himself. [00:09:50] Speaker C: Right? Yes. He's participating as. Participating in the sacramental life of the church. [00:09:56] Speaker B: Right. Oh, this isn't for me. I'm God's son. Like, I'm good to go. It's for you sinners. But he embraced that true human identity, his identity. And then after we're baptized, we have this mission. And I'm totally jealous. I'm sorry. I'm gonna throw this in there. Totally jealous of people who go through OCIC or ocia. I don't remember my baptism. The priest that baptized me is no longer a priest. The church I was baptized is no longer there. [00:10:32] Speaker C: Don't worry. It's still stuck. [00:10:33] Speaker B: I know it's still stuck, but I'm like, man, how amazing would it be just to walk in the font with Father Rob and have water poured over me again? I know. We can't. [00:10:47] Speaker C: You know, Brian remembers his baptism. We talked about that he was not baptized until he was, like, 10, so. And jealous. Yeah. So he has all those memories of what it was like. [00:10:58] Speaker B: I don't know. The symbolism of baptism is just so rich. And I love when the kids and adults walk into the font or when the babies are fully immersed in the. [00:11:11] Speaker C: We did that with Bridget. Yeah. She was not happy about it at the time, but Mike has just got her. She was. [00:11:22] Speaker B: I love it. [00:11:22] Speaker C: So. So. [00:11:23] Speaker B: But going back to why we're baptized. We're baptized and then we're sent for a mission. [00:11:29] Speaker C: Yes. And, you know, this wasn't in today's gospel reading, but I want to talk about it anyway because I think it's really important to. The sense of mission, is that after Jesus was baptized, before he begins his public ministry is when he goes into the desert for 40 days to be the temptation. The temptation to be by himself and it's almost like he's. He's had this sacramental experience, right. Of baptism that happened in the context of community and publicly and all of that, and then had to internalize it or process it or come to terms with the meaning of it privately before he could really be grounded to go out and do everything I wanted him to do. [00:12:20] Speaker B: Yeah. I was just talking with Shauna about my favorite show, the Chosen. [00:12:26] Speaker C: Yes. [00:12:27] Speaker B: And I got laughing, because when Jesus. The wedding of Cana. [00:12:35] Speaker C: Yes. [00:12:36] Speaker B: And was one of my favorite parts of the Chosen was him and Mary in, like, the kitchen. And she's like, we need more wine. Like, we need it. And he's like, it's not my time. And she goes, if not now, when? Like. [00:12:51] Speaker C: I love it. [00:12:52] Speaker B: Like, and that's really what God is telling us, right? Like, we could say, no, not yet. [00:12:59] Speaker C: Right. [00:12:59] Speaker B: But if not now, when? [00:13:02] Speaker C: Get on with the mission, everybody. [00:13:04] Speaker B: So speaking of mission, where have you experienced a sense of conviction for God's call? [00:13:12] Speaker C: Right. Like Jesus did at his baptism was the moment where he, I think, maybe figured out what God's call was going to look like. And when he came, he was convicted, he went on, he did, he lived as God wanted him to. You know, for me, I think my understanding of my mission, it's less about a certain moment and more about an evolution over the years. But I definitely had experiences in my teen years that I think opened possibilities up for what my life could look like, especially as someone who ministers in the church, as a lay minister, because it was as a teenager that I got called into leadership roles in the church. We had a DASS and youth committee that I was part of, and it just. I had the sense of being surrounded by a community that had a purpose. And one of the greatest gifts that youth ministry gave me when I was in high school was the sense that I didn't have to wait to be a leader in the church, that I could do it right then as a teenager, just like Pope Leo said to all of us at NCYC last month. So, yeah, those were definitely formative moments. I think that helped me to. [00:14:35] Speaker B: Be. [00:14:35] Speaker C: Able to have words around what my call was and to have role models who showed me what mission could look like as someone who was a spouse and a parent and working in the church, you know, and then I think I definitely had moments, you know, when I chose to get married and when we chose to have babies and when, like, I moved into different parishes in ministry roles where I felt a sense of conviction or peace about the decision and that the timing was right and that the place was right. But that's a very internal thing. Not like the heavens opening and an actual voice of God coming down on me. How about you? [00:15:21] Speaker B: So mine is more not about working in ministry. It's about being a mom. [00:15:28] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:15:29] Speaker B: Like, I have always been around kids. I've always babysat, and I couldn't wait to have kids. And before Jer and I got married, we were doing our whole pre Cana workshop thingy. [00:15:46] Speaker C: This questionnaire you gotta do. [00:15:47] Speaker B: Well, we did both. [00:15:48] Speaker C: Okay. [00:15:49] Speaker B: So this was at the workshop or whatever. And they were talking about kids and all this stuff. And we both agreed that we wanted kids. What we didn't agree on was when. And I had it in my head that I wanted to get pregnant right away and start a family. And Jeremy came from a very quiet and small family. And he's like, there's not so much. Yeah. He's like, I kind of want to be selfish and just have time for us to be husband and wife. Even though we were dating for nine years, didn't we get enough time? But it's like, it's weird now to think about that. Cause we did end up waiting two and a half years before we had Emma. But I was like. I said to Jared the other day, we could be empty nesters. We could have been empty nesters if. [00:16:47] Speaker C: We had started sooner. [00:16:48] Speaker B: If we had started sooner. Yeah. But aren't you glad you did? I am. I am. And. And it's funny. Cause I wouldn't change anything. I definitely wouldn't. And I don't think I'm ready to be a grandparent. [00:17:06] Speaker C: I think being a grandparent must be where it's at, though. I'm looking forward to that. Hopefully down the road sometime. [00:17:11] Speaker B: But there's no way that we don't. [00:17:13] Speaker C: Need to cross that bridge for a long time. [00:17:15] Speaker B: No. No. But for both of those callings of marriage and parenthood, it was nice to have that time together to figure it out and realize what we did want. And who knows what it could have been if things were different. But it doesn't matter. But I knew that I wanted to have a family. [00:17:46] Speaker C: Yeah. It's interesting how mission has some. There are broad strokes to it. You know, when you're thinking about. [00:17:56] Speaker B: You. [00:17:57] Speaker C: Know, workplaces or ministries or marriage, kids, these big kind of major decisions in our life. But mission is played out in the daily, too, and in different life circumstances. Like, I was thinking about this question of conviction. And this is totally different. But a time recently where I Actually felt conviction in a decision was when we had to move my mom into hospice. And it was the turning point between when we were trying to do everything we could to help her get better and when we accepted that we needed to give her the best death that we could. We needed to be around her, and we needed her to have peace in the end. And it was such a difficult decision, but I think I had a sense of total peace about it when the time came, you know? And so that inner sense of conviction that allows us to stand in a difficult decision or allows us to. [00:19:13] Speaker B: Follow. [00:19:13] Speaker C: Our mission when it's difficult and challenging. Or maybe this wasn't the case in this circumstance. But I think a lot of times when we stand in our mission, there might be conflict or there might be disagreement or there might be tension with other people in our lives and the ability to stand in that decision and know that what you are doing is what God wants you to do. [00:19:37] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:19:38] Speaker C: To have that sense of purpose and that sense of strength and courage that it takes to do that. I think that's when I look at Jesus baptism and how it changed the course of his life. I think that's really something to think about. [00:19:55] Speaker B: So we don't plan what we're gonna say together before we're recording. [00:20:01] Speaker C: Right. [00:20:01] Speaker B: But it's really creepy sometimes how it all. We must be on. Like, we're straight up. We must be on the same wavelength, because I found a quote from Pope Francis. [00:20:12] Speaker C: Oh, great. [00:20:13] Speaker B: And it says exactly what you had just said. And he says, I appeal in particular to young people who are capable of courageous witness and generous deeds, even when these are countercultural. Do not allow others to rob you of the ideal of true mission, of following Jesus through the total gift of yourself. [00:20:41] Speaker C: And this happened to him too. It's not in Matthew, but in Luke. I think when Jesus comes out of the desert, he goes to his hometown of Nazareth. And that's where we get that passage about him reading. He reads from Isaiah, and it's like his mission statement. [00:21:00] Speaker B: Oh, and the scroll. Yeah. [00:21:02] Speaker C: He opens the scroll, he says, the spirit of the Lord is upon me because he has anointed me to bring good tidings to the poor. He has sent me to proclaim liberty to the captives, recovery of sight to the blind, to let the oppressed go free and to proclaim a year acceptable to the Lord. And he rolled up the scroll, handed it to the attendant, and the eyes of all in the synagogue looked intently at him. And Jesus said to them, today, this scripture passage is fulfilled in your hearing, I mean, that's like a mic drop. That is a mic drop moment. And he. So he spends. Yeah, he has the baptism experience. He spends the 40 days in the desert figuring it all out. But do you know what his hometown did to him after that? [00:21:44] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. [00:21:44] Speaker C: They tried to throw him off a cliff. [00:21:46] Speaker B: Right. [00:21:47] Speaker C: I mean, what he's saying, like, about what Pope Francis is saying there about courage and having Jesus lived it, persecution. [00:21:56] Speaker B: That he lived and the whole, you know, death of dying on her cross. Yes, it was for our sins, but it was because they didn't like what he was teaching. Right. [00:22:10] Speaker C: Oh, yeah. They were sinned by him. [00:22:11] Speaker B: It's like. Yeah. So. It's just. [00:22:15] Speaker C: So. Yeah. But that sense of conviction, can you imagine standing up and being like, yep, this is what I'm here to do. [00:22:21] Speaker B: Only if I had a microphone and I could do the mic drop after. Yeah. I don't know if I've ever been challenged in that sort of way yet. Yet for public conviction. I mean, I've seen. [00:22:42] Speaker C: Well, we've had a lot of support. [00:22:43] Speaker B: We've had a lot of support, unfortunately, mentors and. Right, right. And my family is very supportive. So it's the things that I believe, the people I'm around believe, so I don't. I've never had. I've never been challenged towards, you know. [00:23:04] Speaker C: No one ever tried to run you off a cliff? [00:23:06] Speaker B: No. Well, my brother, maybe just because he doesn't like me. [00:23:10] Speaker C: He loves you. [00:23:11] Speaker B: Well, he does now. He did it when I was first born, but. So what are the rituals and our community support? How does the rituals and our community support? [00:23:25] Speaker C: Well, the sacraments support us. They sustain us. All the sacraments sustain us because we talked. Did you have Bob Kennedy for sacramental theology? [00:23:36] Speaker B: Yes, I. [00:23:37] Speaker C: Do you remember what he says about sacraments? Well, he said a couple things that have stuck with me over the years, but one was in the sacraments, we. I'm gonna. I'm not gonna say it the right way, but in the sacraments, we create favorable conditions for grace to work. We can't be like, if I do X, Y, and Z, if I do these ritual actions and say these ritual words, poof. Right. That's magic. We don't believe in that, but we believe that our church's tradition and the wisdom of it creates what we know from our past experience to be favorable conditions for which the Holy Spirit and grace to come in and move it in and thrust. [00:24:19] Speaker B: I vaguely remember. [00:24:21] Speaker C: That was a good one. I like that one. [00:24:24] Speaker B: My quotes from my Professor. [00:24:26] Speaker C: It was a long time ago. [00:24:28] Speaker B: It was a long time ago. I graduated in 2007. Oh, my gosh. [00:24:32] Speaker C: I was 2005 when I. [00:24:35] Speaker B: That's 20 years. [00:24:36] Speaker C: 20 years ago. Okay. [00:24:37] Speaker A: We're on it. [00:24:37] Speaker C: Okay. [00:24:39] Speaker B: I wanna. [00:24:39] Speaker C: But, yeah. When we gather for Mass every week, that's how our community sustains us. Right? Literally. Food for the journey, strength for the mission in the Eucharist that we consume and in the community that we're a part of as the body of Christ. [00:24:55] Speaker B: You know, And I wanna focus on our community at Transfiguration and St. Catharines. And I'm not trying to brag. I'm gonna try to be humble. [00:25:06] Speaker C: Humble brag. [00:25:07] Speaker B: But I love how we prepare and celebrate the sacrament of baptism. [00:25:13] Speaker C: I was gonna ask you about this. Cause you get to. This is part of your job description. [00:25:17] Speaker B: I love the heart. I love the heart. [00:25:21] Speaker C: The families you get to work with and just how we do baptisms. [00:25:26] Speaker B: So we prepare. I meet with all the parents. And there have been a handful of times that it's actually happened where we've had multiple couples at a meeting together, which I love, because then they create a small Christian community among themselves. But I was talking about the signs and the symbols and what it means. So we go through everything that's gonna happen and why we do what we do. But my favorite part of it is the connection after the baptism, before they come to faith formation. [00:26:07] Speaker C: Okay. [00:26:08] Speaker B: So I have really tried. So if you're out there and I haven't done a very good job on this. [00:26:14] Speaker C: You've done a great job on this. [00:26:16] Speaker B: But, you know, we try to send out letters and notes and things like that throughout those years. And it's not just focusing on how you can be a good parent to your child. It's about your vocation to your marriage and how to incorporate daily faith into the life, even though your child can't talk yet and things like that. And it's really funny because Pam McInerney has been re listening to our podcast from last year. [00:26:51] Speaker C: I love Pam. [00:26:52] Speaker B: And she has. [00:26:53] Speaker C: She's great. [00:26:54] Speaker B: She has a notebook that she writes down questions or comments or things that she didn't know. And she needs to get further clarification. I love it. [00:27:06] Speaker C: Let's invite Pam to be a guest in 2026. [00:27:10] Speaker B: And one of her things was she said to me the other day, she says, karen, last year at this time, you were talking about an expectant parent blessing, and how rich would that be? [00:27:20] Speaker C: I remember that conversation. We really should take better notes ourselves. Of all the great ideas we have. [00:27:27] Speaker B: And as she's telling me this, I was like, oh my gosh, I haven't done that. [00:27:33] Speaker C: So friends call us and remind us of all the ideas we share. [00:27:38] Speaker B: But no, I really do want to start that. [00:27:40] Speaker C: Great. [00:27:41] Speaker B: And she actually got laughing. She says, what if a couple comes up and it's one of the streamed masses and their parents don't know and they're watching? I was like, well, that's a really good way to find out they're pregnant. But I just, I really love that idea of the connection and the fact that we do it at mass and the community gets to see them. And you know, Father Rob and Eric even processed around. [00:28:12] Speaker C: Did he. Good for him. He was nervous about that. [00:28:14] Speaker B: He went in Rome doing. [00:28:17] Speaker C: Do you remember at the time we actually weren't here, but there was twins once and I can't. This is a shout out to Father Rob because he walked around the entire church with two babies. [00:28:27] Speaker B: Twice. Twice we've had two, three. We've had three sets of twins. [00:28:32] Speaker C: He didn't drop any of those babies. [00:28:34] Speaker B: Nope, nope. [00:28:35] Speaker C: Not one has he dropped. [00:28:36] Speaker B: We also had. That was. This was cute. We've had one family who has like a three year old and an infant and Rob was determined to carry both of them. And he did. [00:28:48] Speaker C: Three year old is squirming. [00:28:50] Speaker B: Yep. [00:28:50] Speaker C: That's a risk. [00:28:51] Speaker B: Yep. Maybe he was like 2, but 18, I don't know. But by the end, the baby was. The baby was fine, but the two year old was like around his. Father Rob had his hands around his arms and the kid's feet are dangling and he's kind of like walking lopsided. And the mom had to like come and rush. But it was the cutest thing. It's the cutest thing. [00:29:15] Speaker C: And the babies love it. [00:29:16] Speaker B: The babies love it. Except for my son, who is the only one who has cried on Father Rob still to this date. [00:29:24] Speaker C: But yeah, it's a great joy to watch babies be baptized at mass. And we're really as a community then invested in the faith formation and growth of that child for their entire life. Right. [00:29:38] Speaker B: We had our latest baptism. We had one godmother and Father Rob asks, I mean, in the right. You ask the parents, do they understand what they're undertaking? What name have you given your child? Do you understand? And then he says, and to my godmother, do you understand? And she says, absolutely, I do. I remember that. That was so awesome. That is exactly how we should respond. Yes. And that was with Father. That was With Deacon Eric. [00:30:06] Speaker C: Yes. That was so. [00:30:07] Speaker B: Then he says, okay, everyone, your amens need to be just as loud. [00:30:11] Speaker C: The bar has been set. [00:30:12] Speaker B: The bar has been set. But to think about it, looking back on it, to think about if all of our amens and all of our responses were that enthusiastic every single time, even just that positiveness within those prayers, how much better would we feel and be able to participate? [00:30:34] Speaker C: Yep. [00:30:35] Speaker B: You know, do you ever stand behind somebody who is very enthusiastic about their words? [00:30:42] Speaker C: Fun. Sure. [00:30:43] Speaker B: All of a sudden you're like, oh, oh, yeah. [00:30:46] Speaker C: Okay. [00:30:46] Speaker B: Yep. I. I gotta be a little more louder. I gotta be into this. [00:30:50] Speaker C: But, well, yeah. And there's that whole like ncyc, Amen. Right. You get. Yeah, like, I know I can hear more from this stadium full of teenagers. [00:31:01] Speaker B: Yes. And adults. [00:31:03] Speaker C: Oh, boy. Okay. I don't know. I think we've touched on a lot of the things that I had noted to talk about. Do you have any. [00:31:13] Speaker B: No, I. [00:31:14] Speaker C: Last minute thoughts on baptism? [00:31:16] Speaker B: You were talking about Jesus being baptized in the desert and coming back and there's just this ebb and flow of. [00:31:25] Speaker C: It's a process. [00:31:26] Speaker B: It's a process and I think we talked about it one or two weeks ago. You know, the constellations and desolations and there's always going to be. You can't have one without the other. And it's a matter of how we. Look into ourselves and reflect. Do we want to stay in this constellation or desolation? And how can we transform and. [00:31:53] Speaker C: And the rhythm into the rhythm between like public rites, our communal prayer life, the sacraments, and then the pulling back into our own personal prayer with God and our desert moments. [00:32:07] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:32:08] Speaker C: And like Deacon Eric says, Tombtime. Right. So, yeah. That there is that rhythm in our faith life where we have both of those things sustaining our mission. [00:32:17] Speaker B: And there's like looking back on it, there's something for everybody. If you're not an internal reflective person, mass is great for you. [00:32:27] Speaker C: Sure. [00:32:27] Speaker B: Right. And if you aren't as exuberating, Mass. [00:32:32] Speaker C: Is also great for you. Mass is also great for everyone. [00:32:35] Speaker B: Daily mass would be great, you know, but it's. Yeah, I guess that didn't sound. That didn't come out exactly how. I know what you mean. Thought about it. There's different ways of practicing and being mindful of our call and having that support of our community, I think is huge. [00:32:55] Speaker C: Yeah. All right, well, everyone, we hope you experience a sense of your mission this week and this year as we enter into 2026. [00:33:04] Speaker B: Oh my gosh. [00:33:06] Speaker C: And we will see you at our sacramental moments as a community. [00:33:12] Speaker B: Yes. Thank you. [00:33:14] Speaker C: Have a great week, everybody. [00:33:15] Speaker B: Bye bye. [00:33:16] Speaker A: Thanks for taking a faith break with us today. Karen Luke and Anne Gallagher are lay ministers with the parishes of St. Catherine of Siena in Menden, New York, and Church of the Transfiguration in Pittsford, New York. More about our parishes, including weekly live streamed Sunday Mass, can be [email protected] or transfigurationpittsford.org Engineering Today is by Jeff Beckett. 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