[00:00:01] Speaker A: Welcome to Faith Break. Finding God moments in your everyday. Each week on Faith Break, hosts Karen, Luke, and Ann Gallagher bring spiritual refreshment to your daily life. It's April 27th today. Karen and Anne ask, does doubting Thomas get a bad rap? And they explore what it looks like to desire the gift of faith for ourselves and others.
[00:00:38] Speaker B: Welcome back, everybody. Welcome to Faith Break. I am Karen Luke.
[00:00:43] Speaker C: I am Ann Gallagher.
[00:00:44] Speaker B: And we are friends. Ministers, wives, moms, partners in crime, everything.
[00:00:53] Speaker C: Yes.
[00:00:53] Speaker B: And we are here weekly to talk with you guys.
Finding God moments in your everyday life. To talk a little bit about our scripture for the weekend to help you prepare for mass and just how to.
[00:01:09] Speaker C: Be get through the day.
We want to be the break in your day that helps you stay sane.
[00:01:16] Speaker B: Yeah. And I think it helps us just talking about it because Jeff, who does our recording, he says that he finds it very fun to edit us because we're very giggly a lot. And so I'm looking forward to a blooper reel.
[00:01:34] Speaker C: That'll just be proud, though.
[00:01:35] Speaker B: We're not gonna. I don't know, maybe. Maybe we could share it off.
And we like to start our conversations with our God moments.
Ann, do you wanna.
[00:01:47] Speaker C: I do have one.
[00:01:48] Speaker B: Yay.
[00:01:49] Speaker C: So last week I talked about a tender God moment with my youngest, and today I'm gonna share a not so tender God moment with my oldest, but.
[00:01:59] Speaker B: Still a God moment.
[00:02:00] Speaker C: Yes.
[00:02:00] Speaker B: Okay.
[00:02:01] Speaker C: So I was stopping. I was coming home at the end of the day yesterday, and I parked in the garage, and I decided to walk to the end of the driveway and get the mail. And so when I'm coming back into the garage with the mail, I'm turning the corner into the garage, and Liam is standing, like, lurking around the corner, and he just goes, hi, Mom. And I screamed and I.
[00:02:23] Speaker B: And he's just like, did the mail go everywhere?
[00:02:25] Speaker C: Laughing at me. And I was just like, my heart is racing. I cannot believe he just jump scared me on my way into the house for no. Absolutely no reason at all except to laugh at me. But it was just. It was so funny because this kid has always had, like, a strong streak of mischief.
Like, even as, like, just the littlest kid baby. He was like, he was just mischievous. And so that was like, you know, you don't get to see. Yeah, normally I get more like grumpy teenager from them, but now, I don't know. It was just good to have that moment where we just were laughing. And even though I was man, it was still my God moment.
[00:03:12] Speaker B: I always laughed with my Mom. Because she would get mad at me, but she would also be laughing at the same time.
[00:03:19] Speaker C: Yes. My sister was the one who would do things like that in our family.
[00:03:22] Speaker B: And I would never understood. I never understood how my mom and I thought it was the funniest thing that she could be mad and laughing, so I would get her going. And I never understood how you could be both at the same time until I became a mom. And that was what, like, I could think. Like, that would be one of the times.
[00:03:37] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:03:39] Speaker B: Well, my God moment is I wanted to give a shout out to all of our Alpha participants. Oh, my gosh.
So I'm not part of a small group. I'm actually.
I'm looking at Ann telling her what I do, but she knows I do.
I oversee all of the little kids.
[00:03:59] Speaker C: Should you say what? Alpha?
[00:04:00] Speaker B: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
[00:04:01] Speaker C: So for this Lenten Easter season, we're trying a new program for our parish called Alpha, and it is 11 weeks. We come together for a meal, and we watch a video, and we have conversation in small groups. And so we've been getting to watch these relationships build in these small groups.
[00:04:16] Speaker B: And it's really cool because we. We're offering childcare, so couples are coming together at this program. And so I'm not able to, like, be in on the conversation because I'm making sure that our teens are good with our littler ones. And we have about 11 very energetic kids. Thirteen.
[00:04:39] Speaker C: I think we're up to 13 now.
[00:04:40] Speaker B: Thirteen, ranging from three to 13.
So it's been a lot of fun. But I was able to have dinner with one table, and it was a young adult table, and it was three guys.
[00:04:58] Speaker C: Yeah, that was so fun.
[00:04:59] Speaker B: And three young men, strong in their faith, wanting more.
And we just had the funniest conversations.
And it wasn't even related to faith or anything. I mean, it was just fun. And it just made me so happy to see them excited. And one of the guys, I know the parents. And so I went up to the parents over the weekend. I'm like, your son is hysterical. I want to come to a family gathering with you guys and like, oh, my gosh, come. You would have so much fun. And so it was just like, I love the community that Alpha has created, but also, like, the continuation of our faith community. So it was just even just to.
[00:05:50] Speaker C: See, like, the people who are preparing the meals, like, with such generosity and love and care and, like, just good energy. Yeah. Everything about it.
[00:06:00] Speaker B: So that's my God moment is that.
[00:06:02] Speaker C: I second you on that.
[00:06:04] Speaker B: The Ball is continuing to roll on that, so I'm very excited.
So this week.
Well, last week we realized was our third anniversary of Easter from our podcast, so.
But, I mean, I think we have a lot of different followers and people listening this time.
But this weekend is about doubting Thomas. And poor Thomas always gets a rap. I know, but I feel like I really relate to him.
[00:06:37] Speaker C: I think a lot of people do. And actually, I don't think it's a coincidence that I mentioned Liam being my God moment because he's definitely someone who's critical thinker and thinks very logically about things to the point where it could almost be cynical sometimes. But so to see someone like Thomas, I love this story, and I do think it's just. I just feel kind of bad for Thomas, though. Cause we're doubting Thomas. Like, he. How many other things did Thomas do in his life? But he had this one.
[00:07:08] Speaker B: This one missing.
[00:07:10] Speaker C: They ever talk about.
[00:07:12] Speaker B: Yeah, I don't even think it was a mishap or mishap, whatever. But. So for those that may not completely know of the story that we're talking about, this is where Jesus comes back for dinner with the disciples. And Thomas wasn't there.
[00:07:28] Speaker C: Right.
[00:07:28] Speaker B: He was the only one fomo.
[00:07:30] Speaker C: He had fear of missing out.
[00:07:31] Speaker B: Poor Thomas. We don't know what he was doing, but he was the only one not there to see the risen Christ. And he's like, well, I'm not gonna believe it until I. Until I see it.
[00:07:41] Speaker C: Until I put my hands in his wounds.
[00:07:43] Speaker B: Yeah, I put my hands in his wounds. And then finally Jesus appears to him and says, go ahead.
[00:07:48] Speaker C: Fine, fine.
[00:07:49] Speaker B: If you really need to.
[00:07:52] Speaker C: Can you just picture it?
Well, I know, actually.
[00:07:56] Speaker B: Okay, I'm gonna throw out the chosen again, of course. Okay. So I feel like I can see this play out better now that I've seen the chosen, because I don't.
A part of me doesn't feel like Jesus was that annoyed.
[00:08:16] Speaker C: Right? No, I don't think he was either. I think he was just like, all.
[00:08:19] Speaker B: Right, gotta do what you gotta do.
[00:08:20] Speaker C: I totally expected it from. I mean, he knew all his disciples intimately, personally, all the quirks of their personalities.
[00:08:29] Speaker B: But I think when we read the story we're seeing Jesus is like a grumbling, like, oh, fine.
[00:08:36] Speaker C: Right, right.
[00:08:37] Speaker B: You know, And I was like, I.
[00:08:38] Speaker C: Don'T see Jesus as that.
[00:08:40] Speaker B: I see him, like. I almost see him, like, doing it himself, like a magic trick. Like, see my fingers are.
[00:08:46] Speaker C: I know.
[00:08:47] Speaker B: So I don't really.
Like, Thomas gets such a bad Rap for it. But I don't think it was as horrible of an experience.
[00:08:55] Speaker C: No, it makes perfect sense. And here we see. I don't think you ever got to hear this. This was before our parishes were working together so closely. But I will never forget a reflection Marlene, Deacon Eric's wife, gave on this Sunday.
[00:09:08] Speaker B: Yeah, I haven't heard that.
[00:09:10] Speaker C: Oh, she talked about doubting Thomas, and she, like, completely redeemed this guy's character. It was one of the most insightful things I'd ever. And I'm not gonna do justice to the points that she made, but basically, she was asking the question, like, you started with, like, well, where was he? Because when you think about it, all those apostles, the disciples, they were hidden in the upper room. They were scared to go out. They were afraid of what was gonna happen to them, that what happened to Jesus was gonna happen to them. He was the only person who was not hiding.
And so she was like, well, where was he? She's like, did he go out and get, like, food for the gang? Was he the only one brave enough to go out and, like, do what needs to be done? And she's like, or what if he was out there and he was preaching and we just don't hear about it? Like, what if he was out there, like, actually, oh, my gosh, you know, being the best follower of Jesus and that's why he missed out on the thing. Maybe he had more faith and was just, like, when he came back, annoyed that he had missed all the fun. You know, I mean, we're never going to know. But I love how imaginatively she thought about something that we take for granted. Like, we think we never doubting Thomas and what he's all about. And, like, you know what? You don't know. You don't know why he wasn't there.
[00:10:32] Speaker B: Well, and that's so true for other people. And this is kind of like a backstory, but there's some stuff going on in our home, and my husband had to talk to his boss and try to rearrange his schedule a little bit. And when he was talking to his boss about it, there was other things that came out with some other team members. And Jeremy's like, it just goes to show that we don't know what people are going through. And so, like, I don't know why I added that conversation. Like, I don't know why that came up, but it was just weird. Cause that was. We were just talking about this the other day, but we don't know what Thomas was doing. And I've never.
I've never even considered what he could have been doing.
[00:11:19] Speaker C: Right.
[00:11:19] Speaker B: I just focused on the fact that he was the only one not there.
[00:11:22] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:11:25] Speaker B: Wow.
[00:11:26] Speaker C: Yeah. And so maybe the fact that he wanted to see it for himself, maybe it wasn't, like, doubt and cynicism. Maybe he just missed Jesus and wanted to see him. Like, maybe he just really wanted to see him.
[00:11:42] Speaker B: Like, oh, my gosh, that turns a whole new.
[00:11:45] Speaker C: You know, everybody else got to see him. How come? I mean, how would you feel if you had gone out to pick up pizza?
[00:11:50] Speaker B: And, like, actually, this has happened.
Not. Not me seeing Jesus, but. Oh, my gosh, I can't believe I'm gonna tell the story. Okay, so. Oh, my gosh.
It was my niece's baptism, and it was. I wasn't asked to be the godmother, which is fine. It's okay.
[00:12:11] Speaker C: It's okay because you're gonna be a godmother.
[00:12:12] Speaker B: But, yes, I have five godchildren, so, I mean, it's okay. But. So I was already kind of like, this was my first niece, and I guess I just assumed. And we know what happens when you assume, but. So my sister's like, can you. Before we go back to the house, can you grab the food? You and Jeremy grab the food, and we'll meet you back at the house? I was like, okay, so we leave the church and go get the food, come back to the house. And then my mom posts, or I don't even know what. I don't know if it was a posting or she had pictures printed because this was, like, 21 years ago. So we probably, like, had it printed. It was a family picture of everybody.
[00:12:51] Speaker C: At church, and you weren't in it.
[00:12:52] Speaker B: They did the family picture when Jeremy and I left to go get the food. I was like, really? So I know.
[00:13:01] Speaker C: So you get it.
[00:13:02] Speaker B: So I get it. But, like, sorry. You can edit that out if you need.
[00:13:07] Speaker C: We can tell you're fine with it. So you're not mad anymore. But, like.
[00:13:12] Speaker B: But yeah, I mean, listen. Okay. I can't wait to hear this story again now. Like, to hear it in Mass, because I'm gonna think of it more as he was yearning to see Christ.
[00:13:26] Speaker C: We don't know.
[00:13:27] Speaker B: Wow.
Wow.
[00:13:30] Speaker C: Maybe. So, yeah. You never know what's bringing someone to question or to doubt or to demand to see things for themselves.
And people come to conversion in all sorts of different ways. Like, I was thinking about that because, like, we're talking about doubt and faith, and it's like, well, we assume it happens in the head.
But. And maybe for some people, that's the way in. Like they. They can see the logical truth in the teachings and that's, you know, so it might be the intellect that brings them towards God or towards the church, but for a lot of people, it's the heart, or maybe it's even like just the practice of doing it that breaks open the heart, that breaks open the mind. You know, I mean, there's just like all kinds of ways people come to faith. And so sometimes doubt can be intellectual, but sometimes it's. It's.
I think sometimes doubt is in the heart too. Like we might want to believe something, or we could even in our mind, like agree or assent to it, but we don't feel it or we're not living, able to live it freely. So there's just a lot of layers when I think it comes to doubt and faith and how that. What that looks like in each human person is different, you know, so for Thomas, it was.
That was just his way of coming to faith. Right.
[00:14:52] Speaker B: I'm thinking about after you said that. I'm thinking about my first communion kids and trying to get them to understand that it's not just bread and wine, but it's the body and blood of Christ without them thinking that we're eating flesh. Right, right.
And then how many of us don't truly understand the belief that there is that spiritual, even though there's not a physical change and that is what is a significant portion of our faith.
And so I had a zoom meeting with them and Pat Gayshock is my assistant. And so we're both on zoom. And you can tell when we start talking about the bread and wine becoming the body and blood of Christ, because the kids eyes just go get real big. They get real big and they're like, what?
And then. But Pat is such a great person to have on my team because she's like, guys, it's not just about what we're receiving, it's how we feel after. And she was talking about, like, how she feels such calm and grace and peace. And I was like, oh, thank you, Pat. Because I was on this level and Pat bringing me back down.
[00:16:19] Speaker C: You were doing the head talk.
[00:16:20] Speaker B: I was doing the whole head talk. Yeah, exactly.
[00:16:22] Speaker C: Yeah. Well, we need both, right? Yeah.
[00:16:25] Speaker B: Speaking of the Mass, I'm gonna jump with our talking points, but like in the gospel, Jesus offered peace three or four times within that one gospel.
Peace be with you, he says. And so when we say it at Mass, when we offer that the Sign of peace at Mass. What are your thoughts on that? Like, what is.
[00:16:52] Speaker C: Well, by nature, I'm a hugger, but I've tried to rein myself in since COVID on that front.
So now I mostly wave.
[00:17:02] Speaker B: I don't know.
[00:17:03] Speaker C: It's kind of weird now. It's.
[00:17:04] Speaker B: Well, no. So, okay, so what I. Going back to the head, Right. It's always been taught that the sign of peace is an. Is an outward sign of asking for forgiveness for others. Not necessarily the people that you are shaking hands with, but they are to represent those people that you have harmed you.
[00:17:27] Speaker C: So it's about finding unity.
[00:17:29] Speaker B: It's about unity with community, about asking for forgiveness or seeking courage.
And so when. When I actually say peace be with you to somebody and shake their hand, it feels more. Obviously, it's more intimate than looking at somebody across the pew and being like, peace.
[00:17:53] Speaker C: You know, I'm gonna think about that this week when I go. Cause it is totally more of, like, hey, peace. Unless, like, you're actually wishing peace for that person.
[00:18:01] Speaker B: Right.
[00:18:02] Speaker C: Ooh.
[00:18:03] Speaker B: So, like, do we say. When we just say peace?
I feel like when we just say that, it's more of, like, a blessing of, I wish you peace. When we say peace be with you, I think it has that different connotation of, like, you need to hear that I am representing the people that have hurt you or that you have hurt.
[00:18:27] Speaker C: That are keeping you from being at peace.
[00:18:28] Speaker B: That are keeping you from being at peace.
[00:18:30] Speaker C: Yeah.
Community is so powerful.
[00:18:33] Speaker B: So.
[00:18:33] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:18:34] Speaker B: I don't know. I just. I just. Sometimes we.
That happens so fast, and it's, like, right before the collection, and it's just, you know, like.
Or no, after collection, right before communion. It just seems like an afterthought. Oh, we do it just because that's what we're supposed to do.
[00:18:50] Speaker C: But maybe that's the seventh inning stretch of the mess.
[00:18:52] Speaker B: Yeah.
But maybe this weekend, like, actually take the time. And I know for when my family's at mass with me, I really make sure that I take that time, because Lord knows you all know. And Ann, you know, teenagers, it might be the only time that you have.
[00:19:11] Speaker C: You're allowed to hug them. If you're allowed to hug them.
[00:19:13] Speaker B: If you're allowed to hug them. But, like, everything that's happened for that week, you can just. It's like a clean slate. It's like the sacrament of reconciliation in a microcosm. In a microcosm.
[00:19:24] Speaker C: Yeah. So cool.
[00:19:26] Speaker B: So, yeah, think about that.
[00:19:30] Speaker C: I was thinking about, like, the faith, like, the gift of Faith and how it isn't really something you can give to someone else.
[00:19:38] Speaker B: What you can't pack it up in a pretty narrow.
[00:19:40] Speaker C: I can't give it to you. And it's like, I don't know. I think I've been very blessed in my life that, like, I don't struggle to doubt God's. I don't struggle with doubt of God's presence. Like, I. Even as a small child, like, I always kind of just felt like God was with me. So I haven't had those kinds of spiritual struggles. For me, the doubt comes more like I'm frequently disappointed by what's happening in the world, by what's happening in the church, by what's happening in, you know, even, like, our parents. You know, I'm just like, not. Maybe disappointed is sometimes too strong of a word, but, like, I just, like, I know that God can do things, but I also know that God usually works through people who often get in the way of the things that I think God's not.
[00:20:31] Speaker B: On your timeline.
[00:20:32] Speaker C: Yep, I know. So I don't know. I trust that God exists, and I trust that God is working through people, but I don't trust. I don't have faith that people are gonna cooperate with what God's doing. And I know that God isn't gonna force things, right? So it's like, I know God can, but I don't always trust that God will, you know? So it's like, for me, like, a lot of the time, it's like, separating that or figuring out, like, where, like, how do I have faith in God even while all this other stuff is still happening and still true?
[00:21:11] Speaker B: I never thought about that, you know, like, having the trust in others to utilize their gifts.
[00:21:18] Speaker C: It's like, yeah, me too. And, you know, like, we. We work with kids and teens, teaching them about the faith and, like, teaching, you know, like, there's nothing we want more than to give the gift of faith to, like, our kids and our teens and our parishes. Right? And we've talked before about, like, well, we're just going to create favorable conditions for God's grace, right? And we're going to trust that God's going to do the rest. But, like, what I'm coming to appreciate and understand now that I have teens of my own is that it's so different when it's your own kids. And, like, in 25 years of youth ministry, I have really, honestly, like, delighted in all of the challenging questions that get thrown at me by teenagers. Like, I'm not daunted by it. I'm like, bring it on. I will be honest and do my best to answer and meet you where you're at. And I'm not gonna take it personally. And you can. You know, when it's my kids and they express those kinds of. And maybe a part of it is that they. They.
They talk to me in a whole different tone than most of the kids at church talk to me. Let's just be honest about that. But, like, it hurts my heart in a way that I find when it's with the rest of the kids at church, I'm more willing to trust that, like, the seeds are being planted and God's gonna work. But, like, when it's my own kids expressing those doubts or feel and I feel like I haven't successfully given them the gift of faith, it's devastating in a way that, like, nothing else is, you know? So I just wanted to say that, too. We're talking about, like, doubting Thomas is like, you know.
Well, he had to find his own way in.
[00:22:56] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:22:57] Speaker C: Because we all do.
[00:22:58] Speaker B: Right.
And it's. The church looks so different than it did even 20 years ago when. Or 25 years ago when we started in ministry school.
I mean, I remember there was no question Sunday morning you get up. It doesn't matter. It didn't matter what time you went to bed. And I would come down and my dad would look, and if he didn't like what I was wearing, he would just point, and I would go change out of my jeans, you know, because Sunday best. But.
But there's this world. You know, we were talking the other day with some stuff that's going on, and you're just like. There's so much darkness.
[00:23:45] Speaker C: Yeah. And it's coming at us from all sides right now.
[00:23:48] Speaker B: But I feel like it's flooding the kids.
Do you know what I'm saying? Like, it's just like, there's no way out of it. There's nowhere for them to turn and feel like they have that hope of light or, you know, even in.
Even if they are committed to their faith, it's still just this, like, shadow over them. And not having the tools, as I don't even know if I have all the tools yet. But, like, to be able to cope with all that, and it just. It breaks my heart that it's such a different. And I feel so old saying this, but it's such a different world that they're in.
[00:24:29] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:24:30] Speaker B: And, you know, it's just. I feel helpless sometimes.
[00:24:34] Speaker C: But it's true. I mean, I really, in a lot of ways, like, the kids are just not okay. The parents are not okay. Like, there's just a lot, you know, and it's in the light of. In the light. Like, in the face of so much darkness, it's hard to carry the light.
And yet, like, that's all we can do.
[00:24:56] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:24:57] Speaker C: And.
Yeah. So I don't know, like, just to have the faith when it's difficult to do so is, you know, maybe the challenge that we're finding a lot of us are finding ourselves in right now.
[00:25:13] Speaker B: Okay, sorry. That got heavy for a second. Okay.
[00:25:18] Speaker C: No, but, yeah, I mean, like, that's Easter. Right. It's like the Resurrection has happened, but, you know. Yeah. Those disciples are still in the upper room because it's not safe for them.
[00:25:31] Speaker B: Yeah. They're still scared.
[00:25:34] Speaker C: You know, so it's. It's definitely a process. And I think there's a difference between the idea that, like, that's not true or I won't believe, and how can it be true or how can I believe? Right. I'm thinking back to Advent when we had the Annunciation, and what Mary's reaction was. Not. No way. She was like, how. Right. And so, I mean, maybe that's the position. Like, how can this be true?
[00:26:08] Speaker B: You talked last week, too, about being open, having your eyes open, and being open to seeing things. And that's really what Easter and having faith in general is about.
Even if there's the person who needs the scientific evidence, there's still a place in our faith to be able to hold that. Or if you go from your heart, there's plenty of opportunities for that.
[00:26:39] Speaker C: And it's not all or nothing. It's a journey of one step at a time. So at this point, what we have with the apostles is like, they just need to go down the stairs. Right.
[00:26:48] Speaker B: They need to get their 10,000 steps in.
[00:26:50] Speaker C: They need to just leave the upper room.
And maybe they're not in the place where they're going to be preaching in the streets this morning.
[00:26:59] Speaker B: Right.
[00:27:00] Speaker C: But, you know, eventually that's where it'll take them.
[00:27:04] Speaker B: And I've mentioned this before, and I don't know if it really relates, but it just, like, popped into my head. I love the fact that the apostles were just normal people like us. They didn't have these.
[00:27:16] Speaker C: They weren't rabbis.
[00:27:17] Speaker B: Yeah. They were just like us. And each of them had their flaws, but Jesus saw a gift in each of them.
And so I feel like they're more relatable than if they were, you know, these unattainable kind of people.
[00:27:38] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:27:38] Speaker B: So.
Okay, we're just taking a second to look at our notes.
[00:27:45] Speaker C: I think we've. I think we did cover a lot of the things.
[00:27:49] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:27:50] Speaker C: I'm good with leaving this here today.
[00:27:53] Speaker B: Me, too.
[00:27:56] Speaker C: Yeah. So I guess in closing, just maybe spent some time this week asking, how can this be true? How can I have faith in this moment where I find myself in my life today?
[00:28:08] Speaker B: Yeah. And maybe just fan your flame a little bit so it's a little bit brighter. So you could be that hope and that trust for somebody.
[00:28:19] Speaker C: And it's okay to desire the presence of Jesus if you feel like you've been missing out on it.
[00:28:24] Speaker B: Yeah, absolutely.
[00:28:26] Speaker C: He'll show up.
He will show up.
[00:28:29] Speaker B: So thank you, everybody. We really appreciate your time with us that you spend. We love hearing all the comments and the excitement that you share with us when you listen and watch, and we hope that you will have a happy continuous Easter journey.
[00:28:49] Speaker C: Have a great week, everybody.
[00:28:50] Speaker B: Bye. Thank you. Bye.
[00:28:53] Speaker A: Thanks for taking a faith break with us today.
Karen Luke and Ann Gallagher are lay ministers with the parishes of St. Catherine of Siena in Menden, New York, and Church of the Transfiguration in Pittsford, New York. More about our parishes, including weekly live streamed Sunday Mass, can be
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